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of general electric, jack welch, who joins us right now. jack, you made a lot of news today. here is the tweet you put out this morning. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. and i'm just wondering, i understand the way it works is the president gets a heads-up on the unemployment number 4:00 the day before and has to keep it to himself. you're saying in your tweet this morning that the news went the other way, that the people working for the president somehow got the bls, the bureau of labor statistics, and played with the numbers so it would come down below 8% today. how does it work from your perspective? what happened here? >> well, chris, all i can talk about are some of the numbers. we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the elec
right now. >>> 7.8% unemployment. did president obama just win next month's election? jack welch says hold your horses on that 7.8% number. he doesn't really believe it. an influential florida congressman agrees. we'll talk to that congressman live and ask him on what he bases his suspicions. >>> a place in the united states where gasoline has now become hard for drivers to find. you will find out why coming up on "power lunch." >>> meantime, let's go to sue at the new york stock exchange. sue? >> the markets have been up all day long. we're up about 60 points or so on the dow jones industrial average and the big reason of course is the number that we got this morning, falling unemployment. we are now below the 8% level for the first time in four years. the question is how did we get there? here to explain all of that, our senior economics reporter steve leisman. steve? >> sue, thanks very much. sue, this number is a product of simple math. but whether it's telling us about the real strength of the job market is something investors and the fed are going to have to think long and hard
at the business level and these numbers. what do i say? they're fishy. let me say one thing about jack welch that can't be said enough. there was no better ceo in america in the last 100 years than jack. he did it all. look at what he created, look at the value that was generated for people that own that stock. i'm biased. i sat on this board for six years but i can tell you right now i watched jack run a company. there was nobody better, nobody. he was all business. jack expected the numbers for what he said, not for what he wanted them to be. he was a realist. he's being a realist now and i think i am, too. these numbers don't square with what's going on in the economy. say what you want. >> jack had this, got this brand and never been hammered with criticism before. it's like, are you kidding me? you never heard of pcb, neutron jack, you've had -- he's had to put up with criticism. you do something the liberals their panties get in a bunch, but you can say, thisser' the sa they're the same ones that said bush lied, people died, which is a more heinous allegation to make. the bls, maybe th
remains before election day. and with such high stakes, former general electric c.e.o. jack welch stirred up controversy with this comment on twitter, accusing president obama's re-election campaign of essentially manipulating the report. - quote - unbelievable jobs numbers...these chicago guys will do anything..-end quote. the bureau of labor statistics is where the data comes from each month. it is a non-partisan government agency. meantime, the government red ink kept piling up in the late fiscal year. the federal government spent $1.1 trillion dollars more than it brought in according to the congressional budget office. that's the fourth straight year of trillion dollar plus deficits, but down from a year earlier. as for consumer i.o.u.'s, consumer credit grew at its fastest pace in three months.. expanding more than 8 percent in july.. to 2-point-7 trillion dollars over on wall street,t was a mixed day. the dogained 35...the nasd lost 13...the s&p is down a fraction. for the week.. the dow gained 1.3 percent. the nasdaq was up 6-tenths of a percent. the s- and-p added 1.4 percent thi
two years in several decades during this recovery. >> you know, jack welch, the former ceo of ge, he tweeted this because he didn't believe these numbers. he tweeted "unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers." now, there are others who are suggesting there was political influence over the bureau of labor statistics that are driving these numbers, trying to make the president look good only a few weeks before the election. you're familiar with the economists, the statisticians who work there. what do you say to these folks who see some conspirator yal involvement out there. >> that's totally, totally insane. i'm friend with jack welch and i tweeted him back. i said, jack, i love you, but on this one you've just flat out lost your mind. there's an ironclad firewall with criminal penalties for anybody at the bls to have any kind of political interference or to release any of the numbers early. it's totally impossible to do that. you've seen all the reputable republicans that have worked with the bureau of labor statistics in the past
also unexpectedly fell below 8% to 7.8. here's what the former general electric ceo jack welch tweeted. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change the numbers. >> plus, arizona senator and former republican candidate john mccain saying this on cnbc earlier today. >> i question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the w.a.r.n. act that just took place where they're in blatant violation of the law. i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> by the way, the w.a.r.n. act he refers to requires businesses to tell employees about potential layoffs 60 days in advance. here with reangction, former lar secretary elaine chow. thanks very much for joining us. you were the labor secretary. you had the national butreau of labor statistics under you. what do you think about this possibility of a conspiracy? >> when i was at the department of labor, i think the bureau of labor statistics was very professional. they did a very good job. i don't know what's happening now. i can't speak to that. but the fact that this administration h
this week, but we did get numbers mixed and consumer confidence is good and unemployment and yet, jack welch, the former ceo of general electric as you just mentioned on squawk out on twitter today. he's been obviously critical of the white house for years now, but he says unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. that's the former head of a very large company. >> i'm on tv, and i remember jack sent me a fax when i was first on with mark haynes. i like you. i love jack. i'm trying to reconcile jack with the numbers because i trust jack and think he's terrific. i come back and say listen, they've been wrong -- he's jack. i don't think that they're phony. it doesn't make me feel that jack is off the reservation so much that i think that this particular issue -- i disagree with him. i read the tweet and i was, darn, jack, come on, man. >> let's say good is good. >> does this mark the turning point and we had david come out this morning where he was establishing 1575 and that's quite an upside for 2013 particularly if he's standing by a year-
nonsense about him being from europe and foreign and newt saying terrible things not to mention jack welch trying to undermine the latest unemployment numbers. he has dogs out there, romney, dogs that do the barking for him, and the priz doesn't even have nice guys and women out there making noise for him. your thoughts? >> first of all, i mean, i think it's pretty clear from the convention and from the debate last week, mitt romney is a shameless lying chameleon. he will say anything, he will do anything. the same is true with his running mate, paul ryan. unfortunately, we'll probably hear more of that this week. we do have a great surrogate team and they're on the ground in their respective cities or states. they move around. i certainly move around. you talk about deval patrick, i'm in chicago, rahm emanuel, stephanie rawlins blake in baltimore, kasim reed, the list goes on and on. we have the best candidate in president obama and vice president biden. we have the greatest surrogate team, and they're on the ground in those places where there are real people with real issues and real pro
-time or from their homes. some called it an anomaly and former ceo jack welch says these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers. >> and who is participating, who's not working and who's tried to work, but dropped out. all of these things. it just raises the question, and i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >> labor secretary hilda so least angrily denied the unemployment figure was fudged calling the allegation offensive and republican challenger mitt romney said of the jobs number, this is not what a real recovery looks like. and romney was also campaigning in virginia, running mate paul ryan said of the number of jobs created said we shouldn't have to settle for this new normal. reprizing one of the convention themes that americans deserve better than mr. obama has delivered. critics seized on another line in mr. obama's virginia speech in which he denied believing in an entitlement society which he doesn't believe people are entitled to succeed. aides suggest the opposite. >> we don't believe that anybody is ensilenttitled to su
have just up looking for work. romney was not the only person trying to downsize it. former ge ceo jack welch stated that it was unbelievable. he stated that these chicago guys will do everything even changed the numbers. as for the president he used the good news and all of his campaign stops today. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it should not be an excuse for the other side to talk down the economy. they should not be tried to adjust for political points. good news but not big a deal one way or another. it just indicates that we are moving in the right direction but very slow. the next debate will be october the 16th in new york. joe biden will have his debate on october the 11th. >> we are getting new detail about president obama as next trip to the ss 0. he will be attending a fund- raiser. this will be on monday october the eighth period music musician john legend will be heading this scene. the tickets are a hundred bucks or about 75 bucks. this show will be from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.. >> in international news the deadly meningitis. there stating that pain sho
raised by prominent romney backer ge executive jack welch put the challenger in a tough spot. >> if he agrees with it, where's the evidence? and if he disagrees with it, once of his principle supporters is problematic. >> set to release one more job's report four days before the november election. ktvu channel 2 news. >> more details now. the rate dropped from 8.1% because the number of people who got jobs soared. biggest monthly jump since 2003. 86,000 more jobs were added in july and august. >>> tonight at 10:30 what we found when we asked people about the economy and whether they've seen an improvement. >> on wall street the new jobs report did little to move the stock numbers. the debt crisis in europe or spain or greece are facing challenges continued to loom over investigators today. the dow was up 34 points. >>> filed plans for a $100 million initial public offering. the wireless network equipment maker has not said how many shares it plans to sell. the company's revenue nearly doubled to $93.9 million in the first half of this year. >>> stock closed today near lowest level ever
are cooked. i want to put a couple tweets on the screen from earlier today. jack welch said unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. let's get the second one up. the second theory proposed is from a conservative righter. i don't think bls cooked the numbers. i think a bunch of dems lied about getting job. that has the same effect. quickly, make your point. it's depressing to ask this question, but how can we be confident because the numbers are legit? >> you have to know something about the bureau of labor statistics. this is an institution with incredible statistical integrity in how they collect, analyze and report the data. this is an absolutely ludicrous claim. we shouldn't give it any oxygen. in fact, half the people who are saying they don't believe the numbers then start citing bls numbers to show other point they want to make. this agency has been reporting these data for decades. the security that goes around. i've been writing about this on my blog today to see the details about how they make sure there's no political bias in he
with the same message vote early. harris? >> harris: well, wendell, i know earlier former g.e. chairman jack welch was accusing the administration of cooking the books. he says he has no evidence of that but here is what he told fox news channel earlier. >> look, i don't know what the right number is, but i will tell you these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> harris: that's what he had to say. what about the white house? what's the response? >> the white house has no input in the jobless numbers. in fact, they didn't get the figures early. the labor department people who conduct the surveys are professionals, not political appointees. secretary says she is offended that people would suggest her department would fudge the figures. >> you know, i'm insulted when i hear that because we have a very professional, civil service organization where you have top, stop economists that work at the bls. they have been doing these calculations. >> she says it really shouldn't be surprising that after strong upward revisions of the job creation in july and
the guest host, squawk market taylor, jack welch tweeted that maybe this number's been played with. >> those chicago guys will do anything. >> by the way, don't miss "squawk box" on monday and we'll be talking with carly fiorina former chairman and ceo of hp. >>> final thoughts from our guest host john taylor of fs concepts. we were just talking about this tweet from jack welch. he tweeted, unbelievable numbers. the chicago guys will do everything. can't debate the numbers. it is lighting up the tweet sphere. >> there was a huge 873,000 increase in the household survey exceeding the 418 in the labor force. a lot of these numbers, is there wiggle room? there's assumptions, right? >> there's a lot of wiggle room. they're calling up people on the phone. who knows who answers the phone? nowadays you have cell phones and you're not going to answer the phone at home. my phone won't be answered because you'll say that's some weird person polling me. >> although some would say how come it goes and not above. that is volatile. >> because of that, don't trust the number like that. steve had the right
that there is further proof that the economy continues to heal. others not so sure. jack welch tweeted this moments ago. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers end quote. martha: hilda so liz says that that notion is lewd today rust. joined by chris wallace anchor of fox news sunday . good morning, chris. >> good to be with you. martha: what do you make about the backlash for this 7.8 number? >> it's understandable, because it's good news for president obama at a time when he very much needed it. the fact is that he had a bad debate, that his campaign was raoeulgs a reeling, is an overstatement but hit a serious pothole. and the talking point, which is that the unemployment rate under this president has been over 8% for 48 months, they can't say that any more. and obviously some romney supporters aren't happy about that. martha: whenever you look at the economic numbers i always wonder. obviously as you point out the president's detractors will try to mine mice the number and the president will build it up. it's down to everyone's individual econo
the jobs number doesn't matter. is that in part this whole jack welch thing over the weekend around whether the numbers are real, does that matter in all of this? >> i think the jack welch stuff was crazy talk. and earlier in the year when you guys were down in washington on this, joe and i talked about it, there were between points that i would make. one, nobody messes or manipulates these numbers. but, took i think we exaggerate the importance of the numbers for this reason. the people who will vote on november the 6th know what they feel about the economy already. they're living it every day. so because there's a headline that says 7.8, it's a talking point, but they already know what their friends and neighbors are doing. >> when do we find out how romney is fun raising compared to that 180 million or whatever? >> i think if it was so par with obama's, we would have heard already. i think it's probably behind. >> you don't hear that that's unbecoming to have so much money to spend. just don't hear -- it's alway s the republicans. >> it's not decided by money. nice to have, but there is
come from, the underemployment number. jack welch took a look at these numbers. remember, thereof a surge in employment like we haven't seen in 30 years that was announced on friday. jack welch says, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. do you think they changed the numbers? >> i do. i do. and i think that they did a lot of those -- a lot of monkey business. i'm telling you n a month and a half from now, they will do a readjustment like has been happening for the last year and a half. they will do a readjustment and the number will be 8.2 or more. again, the 8.2, it's not a real number because people that are out of work aren't considered unemployed. >> steve: we get that. but if you're making the allegation that this administration is monkeying with the numbers to make them look good, that is very damning. >> everyone knows he didn't want to lay off certain workers in certain categories and that's been well documented and well reported that he didn't want to lay off certain workers in certain categories until after the e
on the jack welch tweet. >> you wonder why institutions in this country are the perception of institutions in the country are failing because people go on tv and make stuff up. ask for the evidence and he said he had none. >> we continue to make progress. 31 consecutive months of private sector job growth. certainly we are not where we want to be. >> many analysts who combed through the unemployment data released attribute the decline to a big increase in part-time work. people looking for full-time jobs unable to find them and they are settling for part-time jobs. there were some 582,000 new part-time jobs created last month. the bureau of labor statistics categorizes the number as "part time for economic reasons." not exactly a vote of confidence in the state of the economy, shannon. >> shannon: all right, doug. a lot more on the numbers. we will break them down later with ben stein, well known economist and author and humorist as well. we might need a little bit of that. thank you, doug. is the lower unemployment number going bolster president obama's reelection bid or be ammunition for
is in a safe somewhere with the president's real birth certificate. the idea that someone like jack welch could go on television and single-handedly embarrass himself by saying that somehow these statistics are made up? it is incredibly dangerous. we wonder why institutions in this country, while the perceptions of them are failing, because people are making these things up. as for the evidence? he said that he had none. host: that was robert gibbs talking on "meet the press" yesterday. we have 15 more minutes taking your calls on what you want to hear from the mitt romney at foreign-policy address later this morning. staying on foreign policy, ryan is on the line from amarillo, texas. caller: i wanted to talk about the function of a iran. there are more sanctions on this country, and we already have problems with them. we want to police these countries to make them hate us even more? it could lead to another war. i want to see mitt romney talked about what we could do to have these countries help us, rather than causing more problems. host: let's go out to atlanta, georgia. independent line. j
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